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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jun 14, 2013 8:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: last waltz and Niel Diamond

I have been of this concert many times and always wondered why the Dead were or were not there. To this day nobody has ever confirmed this either way,and until that is done I will never know. Now the Band's connection w/ Neil Diamond.I knew that they knew each other at the Brill Blg.in N.Y.C.known as the song writers blg. Ok so that's a connection and maybe they became friends .Now that I have gotten back into vinyl I picked up a pristine copy of Love At The Greek by Neil Diamond recorded in 77 produced by Robbie Roberstson and then the Last Waltz was in Nov 78.I turn dserves another and there is the connection.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jun 14, 2013 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

I think the deal was that Robertson had been working with Diamond . At one point he was going to bump Muddy Waters for ND, according to Levon Helm (bad blood with RR) !
Here is the wiki dope .
Neil Diamond was next, introducing his "Dry Your Eyes" by saying, "I'm only gonna do one song, but I'm gonna do it good." Robertson had also produced Diamond's album Beautiful Noise the same year and co-wrote "Dry Your Eyes," which during the concert he hailed as a "great song." In his autobiography, Levon Helm was critical of the inclusion of Diamond, not discerning any musical connection to The Band. Reportedly, when Diamond came off stage he remarked to Dylan, "Follow that," to which Dylan responded, "What do I have to do, go on stage and fall asleep?"[7]
It should be noted, Dylan was also a pain in the ass with the whole production .
I will remind folks that in 1976, the Dead were not "BIG ROCK STARS" , maybe they were viewed at this point as some old embarrassing relic . Also no other bands, SF or otherwise, played . On the other hand, most of the guest were solo acts that could be easily integrated into the show . Already had "BIG ROCK STARS " guesting on guitar (Eric Clapton, Ron Wood) , so no room, even if they wanted Garcia .
A lot of coke and "BIG ROCK STAR EGOS"

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jun 14, 2013 3:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

Clapton did have a connection w/the band or Robertson on Reason to cry, Ron Wood no idea,Ringo no buiness being there and couldn't here him if you tried. Van Morrison lived in Sausalito and I know of no connection w/ the Band.I don't think it was Dylan as the pain in the ass as much as his and the Band's manger the bloated Albert Grossman who wanted Dylan to do only one song and I think him and Bill Graham dooked it out and Graham won that one.Still being so local and now we all know they didn't play anywhere near that date why weren't the members of the Dead there and surely 1 more amp w/ Garcia knowing all of Dylan's tunes would have fit perfectly. Some one out there has to know the reason whether they were there surely Bill would of let them in just to hang they were good friends.

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Poster: vapors Date: Jun 14, 2013 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Band & Van Morrison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALuxBkT_EQ0

This post was modified by vapors on 2013-06-14 23:24:56

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jun 14, 2013 3:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

Weren't Joni Mitchell and Neil Young there too? Was that the Canadian connection? And where did Emmylou Harris fit in?

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Poster: leftwinger57 Date: Jun 14, 2013 4:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

Emmylou was not at the gig she was either in that leading or ending waltzing around shot. The Candian connection is an interesting one but I not felling it.Ronnie Hawkins who gave the Band their real break in his band from Canada makes the most sense. I still get very enoyed at the way the original was cleaned up to this sterile concert film.Yes Neil Young had a bad start and a rock of coke hanging out of his nose ,Dylan had that theater make-up on which not a sole knew why and it's it's all gone now .I also have been rethinking how far back the Band and the Dead actually have known each other.The earliest I know about was the east to west Festival train and you clearly see Garcia and Rick Danko having a grand ole time.Then there was the mega tour also w/ the Allmans at Roosevelt Stadium,Watkins Glen and also which many have forgoten because I think both their sets sucked was at Woodstock.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jun 14, 2013 8:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

All in all, one hell of a shindig. Especially since we're still dissecting it 35+ years later.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jun 14, 2013 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

It is hard to say why, might have been some of the things I threw out above or, maybe it just didn't come to mind . Like when you have some getoether and realize later, that you should have invited whoever .
Is it possible they or Garcia were asked and they declined ? I have never heard anything about it from the Dead folks .
I for one, would have like to have had Garcia up there . But to be honest, as much as I like the Band, Dylan , etc., I am glad I saw the Dead instead, a month before this concert, and 3 months after it .

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Jun 14, 2013 2:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

Wow. Great barb there from Dylan. LMFAO.

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Jun 14, 2013 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

I feel like I once knew the answer as to why no members of the Dead family appeared at the Last Waltz, but it's long gone. The Last Waltz, by the way, was 11/25/76 (the film was released in '78). The Dead were not touring at the time, and it looks like Jerry played the Keystone just three nights prior.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jun 15, 2013 5:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: last waltz and Niel Diamond

The Dead completely understood the nature of this event from Bill Graham that this was to be a concert film event directed by Martin Scorsese. At the time they were beginning work on their new project Terrapin Station. If the Dead were off the road on Thanksgiving there would have been an annual family dinner in Marin.

That being said, Garcia was an aspiring filmmaker at the time attempting to put the finishing touches on the Grateful Dead Movie final cut and a chance to hang with Scorsese, watch his crew work would appear to have been an great opportunity to learn and be inspired, enjoying the backstage activities with his peers and assisting in hosting the after show party that probably lasted well into the next day.

Don’t really know, wasn’t there, but i do know that Jerry was always a welcome guest at any of Bill’s parties in the Bay Area and this evenings festivities must have been a tight guest list.